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Dear all,

Taking; LORD's supper and Baptism with Jewelry on, are un-acceptable and non-biblical since these are the commandments of our Lord JESUS CHRIST who lead a very simple life. No ornaments were with him while crucifiction in order to share with the soldiers or his worldly relatives. Wearing these ornaments are against scriptures, WORD of GOD and Christian Practice.

Peter and John told the sick that they do not have Gold or Silver (Diamond and other worthful things). But they said they have one thing JESUS. And asked the sick to get up and walk in the name of JESUS. Do you have the belief and caliber to say a sick man like this? What you are debating about? Study the word of GOD; meditate on it and live accordingly.

Money is Mammon (Diamond, Gold and Silver are Mammons and these are the articles which used to make Lucifer. Kanmoham, Jadamoham and Jeevanathintae prathaapam are the basic factors for sin; yesterday, today and for ever. 

So ignore these things.

When your brother is starving how you can put a gold chain in your neck and gold ring in your finger and say that you are a born again christian?

Try to become christ like. Ignore all glory. be simple.

May GOD bless you.

In HIS Service

JMM

  ASK ANY PASTER TO SHOW "WORD OF GOD THAT   TELL WEARING JEWELRY  IS  SIN". BROTHERS U MUST THINK.IF A LAW IS T HEIR  NOT WEAR, THEN U BREAK THE LAW.    BREAKING THE LAW     IS SIN.

Fye

 1) Pastors deny people on what basis.

2) Should stay away................ Why ?

 Jsph

Fye

  What about money.?.....Car......Costly houses.....?

 

Obvisiosly, a person wearing ornaments in a group and that group doesn't allow or uses it, then it shows that he is not interested in their concept on this matter.

so this person has to find some other group that matches his interest and should make soul fellowship with them.

In North india and in English culture they do simple wearings....but keralite's culture has ornamental craze. .....if someone put a little ; then the license has got for others to put as much they like.

innorder to avoid this ; it's better to avoid this tenedency in kerala groups.

kindly bear it, b'coz the issue of lord's table is far more important than ornaments.

 

 

 

Hi

Lord's table is far more important than ornaments.

I accept this comment but let me ask one Qustion. Who told you to force or teach others to remove gold as doctrine ? Let me realy tell you this is not a doctrine of our lord jesus christ. He wouldn't care wheather we wear gold or not but he looks at our heart and judge us.

 Thanks

welcome,

1. can you explain, wearing ornaments shows politeness for women as per the word of GOD. why need to put ? (NT)
2. GOD condemned the use of ornaments for israelites when they have forgetten him and made idol from it. (OT)

when GOD is less GOLD is more.........please find your pastors help for those above references.

happy wishes,

Hi

why need to put ? This is not at all a qustion. We have been following(wearing gold) it for many years. To stop this practice there should be an acceptable reason. That is what I mean....and I have one doubt that why did jesus tell the parable of prodigal son ? I do not need to ask anyone. I came to faith life by reading the bible. I would like to do the same. Mention some words from NT.

 

Thanks

 

welcome,

first , you admitted that it is an unnecessary but a continued process of wearing.

so if we have good things to practise then maximum avoid unnecessary.

secondly, the parable of prodigal son gives pleasure on living with father than searching for any other matter for happiness..

" I do not need to ask anyone" , badly points something .... so better ask doubts to those who know more on bible.

wishes

Dear Pastor

Not only you but all the Kerala pentacostal pastors will quote the three words from the Bible verse such as Jadamoham, Kanmoham,Jeevanathinte Prathapam against wearing ornaments (basicaly gold).  Under these three desires come everything in the world.  Let us examine ourselves what we have or like to have in this world is all coming under the JKJP.

I dont know how the poor 'gold' became only victim amoung the Kerala pentacostals.  It is purely a tradition wearing ornaments -Kerala people are crazy after Gold.  One of the reasons are the influence of Gulf NRIs.  In Europe and western countries yellow gold 22ct is not widely used, instead they use fake ornaments.

My point is this that a person receive Jesus as personal saviour in his/her heart, live by faith in heart and leave all our possesion behind us when we die.  The only thing we take with us is the faith we have.  Therefore let us not descriminate people on the basis of outward things.1corinthians 13 says everything.  Lords supper is an example of fellowship.    It is not at all compulsery that a pinch of bread and wine should be taken for Lord's supper instead if Church  can afford a wholesome meal after every worship service can be provided and  it can be also called as Lords supper in memory of Jesus Christ and His sufferings.  If so, will we deny  Lord's Supper to believers with a gold ring on their finger? I dont think I can say 'NO' to my brethern, however I am not that much perfect in my christian life.

 DA

 

Hi

 I did not say that wearing gold is unnecessary.

 the parable of prodigal son gives pleasure on living with father than searching for any other matter for happiness..

Why did jesus mention about the gold ring on the parabl of prodigal son ?  and the parable is perfect enough even if gold ring is not mentioned. It means that god has to say something out of that. Don't chanalize the word of god in your own way.

Thanks

 

actually as i said before, you need someone to interpret the spiritual matters in bible.

the prodigal son needs a ring atleast because he spoiled his whole share....but the one living with father has everything that belongs to father..

decide, you belongs to which catagory ??? and happiness

Hi

 " the prodigal son needs a ring atleast because he spoiled his whole share ". I do not know what does it mean.......You try to understand my point....Does the father have only ring to present ....... you need someone to interpret the spiritual matters in bible.

Hi

" so if we have good things to practise then maximum avoid unnecessary"....Do you think that removing gold is a good practice...but I do not think so..If you feel so remove it but do not force others to remove.

Hi

Does it mean that pastors are perfect ? How can a pastor deny giving Lord's Supper to certain people. Who told him to do so.Did jesus say that.You believe that only wearing gold is a sin....no other sin....If there is... why pastors are giving lord's supper to others....Are you considering a sin only when it is visible ? (wearing gold is visible). Tell that pastors to find out other sinners what Peter did in the Acts of Apostles....Why he is not doing that.....If he is doing that then he has the right untill and unless...It is not at all acceptable.

Thanks 

 gaining knowledge in God's word is a gift of holy spirit and i am sorry i have boasted more.

again, actually he lost his share, so let him have a ring. no problem

see this discussion board is using by pentecostal gold lovers.....but i can pray than force anyone

first talk about something visible, you sounds clearly out of penetecost and rebellion,,,what happened to your christian life ???

repent and become a good pastor of your choice.

if you have found some sin in pentecostals, then tell exactly what and we will discuss on that,,,avoid mixing and confusing.

I answer for your first Qustion- I am leading a good faith life. I think it is clear 

I hope that You have enough and more experience in pentecostal life...Should I explain it ? If you can not find it out, my explantion wouldn't be enough to open your eyes.

Thanks

All sins have the same effect wheather it is visible or invisible. Wearing gold is not a sin. Can you prove it as a sin from the world of god (NT). Do not take some words but take all words from the bible and explain it.

 

 

repent and become a good pastor of your choice.

if you have found some sin in pentecostals, then tell exactly what and we will discuss on that,,,avoid mixing and confusing.

 

 

Do not take some words but take all words from the bible and explain it.

you need all the world of GOD... to remove gold?

talking about visible first to explain invisible.

explain me about the need of gold from all words in bible

 

why GOLD is to be justified in terms of bible...???

avoid it.

 

 

I have already explained it before. Please go back and read it. One qustion is not the answer of other qustion......Do not drag the matter....Do not beat about the bush.

you need all the world of GOD... to remove gold?

I do not know what does world of god means ?

I can do a thing which is not a sin. So I do not need to explain it from the bible because I am not teaching it as a doctrine, but when you people are teaching it as a doctrine and forcing others to remove then you have the responsibility to explain it deeply. I do not force anyone to wear gold. It is upto him. If somebady remove or not I do not care. You can not go away from the Qustions that Why did people remove gold ? If the answer is  to lead a simple life, are they ready to follow apostles by giving up all the things ? If not, why ? What people will get if remove gold ? God is looking at gold. I can not believe.

Thanks

Hi Dear

If you teach something as a doctrine  which is not there in the bible has no value before god. The next thing, God has no responsibilty for it and Sathan can hold people by using this kind of false teaching which has no biblical basis. If god is not considering about gold why You are bothering....I do not know what kind of problem it is.....You konw that there is no biblical basis. When you came to faith life and somebady forced you to remove it and they made you to believe that you do not get heaven if do not remove gold. By obaying that you removed and now you understoodd the reality, so you are jealous about others who wear it so you want others to do what you did by mistake. I talked about the subject to many, all have the same answer that they removed it by mistake.

Thomas 

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